22 suspected illegal immigrants on their way home today after trying to land on shore near Camp Pendleton

SAN DIEGO – Twenty-two would-be immigrants taken off a boat whose captain tried to beach it at Camp Pendleton were on their way back to their home countries today.

Twenty Mexicans, a Guatemalan and a Colombian were suffering from exposure when they were discovered about 3:30 a.m. Friday, authorities said.

Oceanside Harbor Police and U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents took the suspects into custody and turned them over to the Border Patrol.

If the smuggler can be identified and authorities can get some of the others to testify against him, federal agents may prosecute the smuggler and let the witnesses stay in the country.

CAMP PENDLETON – U.S. Border Patrol agents arrested 22 suspected illegal immigrants today after they tried to land on shore near Camp Pendleton, according to a published report.

Authorities said the 20 Mexicans, one Guatemalan and one Columbian had been at sea for an extended time and were suffering from sun exposure and dehydration, the Los Angeles Times reported tonight on its website.

Agents with U.S. Customs and Border Protection spotted a panga boat carrying the passengers near shore about 3:30 a.m., The Times reported.

Officers from Oceanside Harbor police assisted in preventing an escape back to sea by the people on the boat.

The immigrants were taken to a Border Patrol office for processing. Authorities were conducting an investigation of those responsible for the smuggling attempt.

118 Responses to "22 suspected illegal immigrants on their way home today after trying to land on shore near Camp Pendleton"

  1. yeah baby   July 17, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Way to go!!!! Keep it up, I can’t afford to pay for more illegals I’m trying to pay for my own family, I see it all the time at the local grocery stores, GOT EBT??? They eat better then I do, and I work my butt off, so they can have better things to eat, drive, and wear. And Half the time I see them stealing it, and have there kids eating it before they even leave the store. GO HOME… work for your family, but we make it to easy for them to live off our taxes, Well off to work, got to go pay the illegals , because I’m a legal American and speak English so there is no excuses

  2. Some Humans R Illegal   July 17, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Ha Ha Ha!

  3. fallbrook mama   July 17, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Too bad they have to leave their own countries for greener pastures. Mexico should really take care of their own, so we don’t have to.

  4. Fallbrook Res   July 17, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Thank you
    Agents with U.S. Customs and Border Protection
    U.S. Border Patrol
    Oceanside Harbor police
    and all other services.

    Shame on you Governments of these very desparate people in not giving the basics for a clean simple life. Example of mans injury to man.

  5. Ray (the real one)   July 17, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    The stupid illegal alien criminal file.

    Illegal Alien Home Invasion Suspect Arrested With Help From GPS Tracking Bracelet

    On Thursday, July 8, at about 4:20pm, Escondido Police Department received a call from a juvenile stating that someone was breaking into her house. The juvenile relayed to dispatch that several neighbors had chased the suspect away and the suspect was no longer in the apartment. When officers arrived, the neighbors stated that the suspect was known to them and that he lives in a neighboring apartment but he fled down the street. Through further investigation, officers discovered that the burglary suspect was outfitted with a GPS ankle bracelet due to a pending ICE deportation hearing. An ICE Agent partnered with an Escondido Police Officer was able to give specific directions and turn by turn instructions that tracked the suspect. With the help of ICE agents assigned to the Escondido Police Department, the suspect was located and safely taken into custody on the burglary charges. Without this technology and the assistance of the ICE Agent, the suspect would not have been located.

    Officers arrested Jimmy Alexander Magadiaga, 22, of Escondido. Magadiaga was booked into Vista Detention Facility for Residential Burglary, and an outstanding domestic violence warrant. An immigration hold was also placed on Magadiaga by Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    The Escondido Police Department believes that there may be more residential burglary victims in Escondido where Magadiaga is the suspect. If you have any information, please contact the Escondido Police Department Dispatch Center at 760-839-4722 or the Anonymous Tip Line at 760-839-4973. You may also go to our Website at

    ** OR **

    Illegal Alien Arrested after 54 Minute Pursuit

    On Thursday, July 8th, at about 9:30pm, Escondido Police observed a stolen vehicle and attempted to stop the vehicle in the area of 600 West 15th. The driver failed to yield to officers and continued southbound on Felicita Ave to Via Rancho Parkway. Escondido officers pursued the vehicle to southbound I-15 and Carmel Mountain Road where CHP officers took over the pursuit, which continued into downtown San Diego before returning north to the area of Miramar Road. The driver re-entered southbound I-15 where CHP officers deployed spike strips. The driver continued onto southbound I-805. The vehicle spun out roughly fifty-four minutes later and all three occupants were taken into custody at the eastbound Hwy. 94 onramp. The driver was taken into custody with the help of a K-9 unit and is identified as Mario Alberto Macedo, 22 of Escondido. Two other passengers were arrested and are identified as Daniel Torres Espinoza, 19 of Escondido, and Ignacio Gaona, 22 of Escondido. Both Espinoza and Gaona were released without charges.

    Additionally, officers recovered marijuana and two scales that were thrown from the vehicle in the area of Felicita Park in Escondido.

    Macedo was booked into Vista detention facility for Auto Theft, Receiving Stolen Vehicle, Felony Evading. Possession of Marijuana (more than one ounce) and Possession of Marijuana for Sale. Macedo also has a hold placed on him by Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

  6. Ray (the real one)   July 17, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    It’s an invasion folks, we need to start treating it like one. Usually when you trespass on a military facility a sign posted says "use of deadly force authorized", and who says we don’t treat them humanely?, Better than the illegals who cross into Mexico from Central America. Personally barbed and concertina wire, mines, pill boxes and armed patrols with shoot orders from San Ysidro to the San Diego-Orange County line would suit me fine.

  7. Ray (the real one)   July 17, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    Another boat landed at Mission Beach last night, nobody caught. This is getting old fast.

  8. local   July 17, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    let the witnesses stay in the country? how about we beat the …. out of them so they don’t want to come back?

  9. Just Curious   July 18, 2010 at 6:53 am

    How many of them were pregnant when they were captured en route to El Dorado?

    Btw, any idea how nice this place would still be without Reagan’s amnesty, or if our own prop. 187 had not been thrown out by a traitorous judge and a legislature too weak to appeal?

    (= ab1070 =)

    Jan Brewer has bigger man parts than Ahnold of Sah-kree-man-toe, Kah-lee-fone-ya!

  10. juan   July 18, 2010 at 6:54 am

    If you do not think it is an invasion, just head to FHS. They refuse to stand for the Pledge, demand announcements in Spanish, threaten those Americans with Mexican roots who do not speak Spanish and speak openly of taking over the Country.

  11. Oscar   July 18, 2010 at 6:54 am

    Hey to all you haters out there dont be hating because we take your guys jobs we take it from you guys because we do it faster & better thats why without us mexicans this country wouldnt be ….!! go out to a construction site how many mexicans are out there working & how many white guys are there haha so dnt just run your mouth because you guys got 1

  12. hobo_beans   July 18, 2010 at 6:55 am

    yeah baby: Is that what you call "speaking English"? It looked like more of a word salad made from English words.

  13. observant   July 18, 2010 at 11:07 am

    Seems like a good way to get a free boat. Just hang out at the beach until one comes your way.

  14. Ray (the real one)   July 18, 2010 at 11:07 am

    Oscar: Mexicans are like computers. Give them a very simple task and they will run forever but get into multi-tasking and they crash than it takes you forever just to get them up and running again.

    Better, faster? No just cheaper is all.

  15. matt   July 18, 2010 at 11:07 am

    so how do you take a boat from Arizona, i thought it was land locked.

  16. It must be global warming   July 18, 2010 at 11:07 am

    Thank god for Arizona and for those who still fight for the United States and the way it used to be. Keep voting liberal in this state and you will get more and more of this. Vote YES on Prop 23. Let’s kick the socialists out of this state.

  17. Juan   July 18, 2010 at 11:08 am

    Those Mexicans invading our American soil are not smart enough to take over America.
    As for doing jobs faster and better. That’s a load of crap.
    Oscar, I will never hire another TJ again. You just cost my gardner $300/month. Consider him fired.

    To the writer of this article. You spelled “columbian” incorrectly. It’s Colombian. And what’s up with “suspected”? Panga boat, 3 a.m. What more evidence do you want?

  18. Ed McCaffrey   July 18, 2010 at 11:41 am

    The Federal Government is supposed to be enforcing the laws of the United States of America. If you are illegal you are breaking the Federal Laws which require you to possess a Social Security Card in order to become part of the system. It is designed to prevent people who do not pay to use the system We already have free health care in the US, just not for Americans. Go to any Hospital and you will see a large line of Hispanics receiving free health care and free health care. The problem is not with Mexicans, the problem is with business’s that hire illegal aliens to do their work because they will work for cheap or for cash. Stop building fences on our borders and bring the US Military home to set up a perimeter, with orders to shoot to kill anyone who tries to enter our country illegally. Employ military personell to investigate all business’s who employ people without legitimate socail security cards. If your business is found employing illegal aliens it should be confiscated, you should be sent to prison for violating Federal law, and your assetts sold to pay for a one way bus ticket home for the illegals. Remeber this is not Mexico’s fault, don’t blame these people who are coming the land of the free, roads, schools, and hospitals. Punish those Americans who are taking advantage of these people by paying them low wages, and not paying taxes to support the system. The only way to stop the illegal invasion is to erase any opportunity for employment by American business’s who take advantage of this cheap labor. If you want to become a US citizen turn in your papaerwork and get a social security card that requires employers to pay you a decent wage and pay taxes so that we can support the system of schools, police, fire departments, roads, etc. If we continue to allow this huge mass of people to continue to use the system for free, we are headed for collapse. On a smaller scale, try taking 20 people into your home who do not contribute to rent or food, or electricity, or water and see how long your finances last. It is the same principle. Enforce the federal laws that already exist, and stop spending millions on fences that won’t work. Emplpy the military to set upa perimeter, and enforce the laws and this situation will mend itself.

  19. Red   July 19, 2010 at 7:57 am

    Well I agree with Ed McCaffrey. Heres some fyi. There is an apartment complex here that has federal funding for agriculture workers!!! (it’s located on Alturas Road). How stupid is that? Anyone giving a job to illegals from picking avo’s to cleaning ones home need to be a shamed of them selfs as well as anyone renting to them. It might help if we all boycot avo growing companys. Even if one loves avo’s like I do, it would be worth giving up till they employ American workers. But being the avo company CEO’s are greedy and small minded, who don’t give a crap about their workers or America, I think boycotting would be very helpful to help them understand the error’s of their ways. And as I have stated in the past, illegals get their paperwork from the many legal Mexicans who work in the state and federal jobs. And illegals pay high dollars for it to those workers of state and federal jobs. This problem is like a giant spider web, but all roads lead to Roman (the federal government).

  20. wht   July 19, 2010 at 7:57 am

    Like i said TAG ALL VISITORS

  21. XLEN   July 19, 2010 at 7:58 am

    Invasion? This is nothing compared to what will happen in a few years.

  22. yeah baby   July 19, 2010 at 7:58 am

    HOBO: what are you trying to say??? You need your salad tossed?

  23. Rosie   July 19, 2010 at 7:58 am

    I totally agree with Ed McCaffrey. I think you should go talk to the politicians. We need some brains in the system. It’s all about opportunity and what you are able to get away with. Don’t give them the opportunity and eventually all this will change. Maybe it won’t completely disappear but it will deffinately change.

  24. Ray (the real one)   July 19, 2010 at 7:59 am

    Ed McCaffrey: You forgot the politicians who want those "cheap votes".

  25. Oscar   July 19, 2010 at 7:59 am

    listen ray we do our work better & cheaper thats true but thats no reason for you to be hating man! you just run your mouth because you got one also learn how to run those hands the same & you”ll do alot more better in life & to you Juan I bet your more mexican you think your the best in the world & about your garder that sucks get a white boy see how much they”ll charge you probably twice as much & wont even do the work as good as us so try it Juan that one guy haha!!!!! I just appreciate where Im from & how I was raised to succed in this country that is ours its runned by us the latinos!!!! like it or not to all you haters thats something you guys will have to live with for the rest of your lifes & if you guys dont like it go back to your your country which is not this one & in a few more years there will be the triple of mexicans there are right now SO DEAL WITH IT HATERS!!!!!

  26. Ray (the real one)   July 19, 2010 at 8:44 am

    Oscar: In your eyes maybe but I think your blinded by the mid morning case of Budweiser. I am so glad you appreciate where your from, may I suggest a return trip. Maybe you will see how good you have it here. You might be right but I’ll bet within those few years, you will not be able to drink the water and the toilets won’t flush, just like home huh?

  27. IstSgt USMC Ret.   July 19, 2010 at 9:18 am

    Oscar, your comment is ignorant because you miss the point that illegal is illegal. It has got nothing to do with how well you do things and how cheap you will work. This is America, this is our country not theirs. If we get the illegal aliens out of our ER’s, classrooms and off the dole we will have more funds to spend on our citizens. Until you learn and understand the differences between legal and illegal we can not have a lucid conversation.

  28. fallbrook mama   July 19, 2010 at 9:47 am

    Oscar: You are running your mouth, too. If your grammar is any indication of where this country is headed, then we should all be afraid, very afraid. Just because you work hard, does not mean you are better. Hard work AND an education is what this country is built on. Go back to school, spend less time drinking with your buddies after work and learn how to write properly, and THEN maybe you’ll be taken seriously.

  29. Ray (the real one)   July 19, 2010 at 10:13 am

    Guess I got just in time before Fallbrook changed hands. Another community falls to the peons.

  30. Ray (the real one)   July 19, 2010 at 10:13 am

    Remember folks I said Fallbrook was an "open city" Well the enemy now claims it. Check out the local billboards in the downtown area. Fallbrook is now "barrioized", you lost folks.

    I just received the photos from a "Fallbrook Patriot".

    FBVN: How about taking some photos and putting it in Thursday’s paper, I am sure you will have record sales, opinions and blog comments on this one.

  31. UNAM   July 19, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    Its ok they will get to america in their next attempt!
    Ray (the real one): are you 100% native american?
    Cause if your not you should remember you dont belong here in this country but thanks to its laws you can be here without any worries. Those are human beings. They are trying to escape poverty, violence, murder. Im mexican. I have been to mexico city in the past year. My family and i were trying to get to the town we are from. Half way there a car pulls next to me shows me a pistol and told me to pull over. I did, 5-7 men surround my car with AK-47’s pointed at all windows. Have you experienced anything like that? Illegal immigrants dont come to "invade, take over" this country, they want a better life. You might say its the Mexican Governments fault and they need to take care of it. But sadly it is not like that, the government over there are threatened to be killed. So dont be talking crap about mexican this and mexican that. Also let me tell you something, you wouldnt last one day in a mexicans shoe’s. We do all the dirty crap for the americans and we get their money so hey keep hating, keep supporting the border patrol, keep supporting those who catch mexicans. We will never leave. The mexican population is getting bigger and bigger here in america and FALLBROOK. You will never get rid of us, but at the end of the day if it makes you feel better knowing people are being murdered in mexico and thrown out of america you should feel great. Also, for the past couple of years fallbrook has been "Barrioized" its nothing new haha so that was a pointless comment. Respond to my comment i wanna see your lame responce, you reply to almost every other comment anyway, haha get a life maybe? i think so.
    100% mexicano, and ray(the real one) just flip off man, you dont know what its llike in mexico.

  32. Daniel R   July 19, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    UNAM, It isn’t just Mexicans coming here illegally. They are from all over the world, the greatest percentage being "Latinos". Latinos are "NOT" just Mexicans. You and other people here refer to illegal immigation being = to Mexicans. If we all want to be political correct here, let’s get it correct.

    I am too Mexican, my family & I came to the U.S (legally) when I was 13, we all went through the whole legal process and I am now proud to say that I am an American Citizen. I am also proud of my heritage, but it’s been far too long for me to feel proud of the old country.

    I am NOT the kind of person to wave a Mexican flag around here in the U.S. just like I won’t go to Mexico and wave a U.S. flag there. It is disrespectful and that’s what alot of people lack. Does that make me less American? No, it is just common sense.

    FYI, people get murdered everywhere in the world not just in Mexico. We need a more valid excuse.

  33. Ray (the real one)   July 19, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    UNAM: My ancestors come from cavemen. No such thing as "native americans". That’s just the PC in you talking. They were indiginous peoples living here……. next. I want a better life too, do I rob a bank? see your folks have no concept of laws, maybe because have none, it’s take, take and take. Sounds exactly what you folks do here. Maybe you should contact Enrique Morones, sure he would love your dribble. Where do you think you will do without "gringo"? Starve comes to mind.

    Daniel R: If everyone thought like you, the would would have less hoochies and chollos.

  34. XLEN   July 20, 2010 at 6:23 am

    What I see in this argument regarding illegal immigration is the infamous "Clash of Civilizations." People is just afraid of having their culture threatened by those who they see as the "enemy." But again, culture (language, religion, etc) is being "threatened" everywhere in the world because of globalization. We need to learn how to approach other cultures and lead by example. People need to stop complaining about immigration and making racist comments regarding the "peons" and how they steal our jobs and drain our economy. It is called Capitalism right? As long as the companies demand cheap labor (of course, cheaper by hiring illegals), the problem with immigration will continue. Instead of complaining and feel disdain towards illegal immigrants, we need to put our energy towards better reforms and laws that would allow our country to move forward. Better reforms are necessary in order for the United States to move forward. There are bigger things going on that drain our economy and prevent Americans from having or getting a job. Wars, greedy CEOs and companies who exploit workers and create an atmosphere of despair that is making us find a group of people to put the blame on. This reminds me of Nazi Germany. I’ve read some comments in this article, and I see people commenting that illegal immigrants should be sent back or even hurt physically to teach them a lesson and make them feel like never come back to the U.S. Realistically, it is impossible to send back millions of illegal immigrants back to their place of origin without using unconstitutional means or without using means that might deprive them from their human rights. As for those who are openly racist (RAY) and those who feel like sending illegal immigrants back to where they are from, maybe one day they will get tired of people in America, people like you who insults them without remorse. Maybe one day they will actually prepare to "take over" and be called criminals for a reason. If you don’t want illegal immigrants as simple workers, I hope one day you like them as your actual enemies when, driven by their anger and disdain towards America, they start practicing terrorism or any other means that allows them to show their hate against people like you.

  35. pde   July 20, 2010 at 6:24 am

    Daniel R: if everyone thought like you, the world would have less hoochies and racists

  36. to ray   July 20, 2010 at 6:24 am

    since our ancestors were caveman and they were indiginous people living here were all aloud to live in the usa

  37. pde   July 20, 2010 at 6:24 am

    yo ray you say mexicans are lazy but think about it, when have you ever seen an illegal in fallbrook living in the street asking for money,never, the only homeless people are white people cause they are to lazy to do anything unlike illegals they get up at 3 in the morning to look for work

  38. :)   July 20, 2010 at 6:24 am

    hells angels
    skin heads
    sons of silence
    nazi lowriders
    haha your right ray mexicans are the only ones who brought gangs in this country

  39. danny   July 20, 2010 at 6:26 am

    Ray (the real one) are you racist? I understand where you are coming from, however, you seem to completely loathe the concept of an illegal alien (especially someone Mexican). Yea its true, i see hundred of Mexicans every single day outside of churches, Home Depots, and other places looking for work. They claim that they come to this country looking for a better life, but i don’t see it. If they really wanted it then they would apply themselves and what not. Anyways, being Mexican American, it is kind of disrespectful when i read comments such as yours, however, like i said before, I understand your point. It takes your taxes (not mine because my parents work) and other legal American’s taxes to pay for them. Yea that’s true everyone knows that but what can you do? Unfortunately, until there is serious reform in our failing political system, illegal aliens will continue to come in greater quantity every day. I agree with Ed Mcaffey, however remember that this country is about justice. Also, if your an AMERICAN, meaning you were born on U.S. soil, and your complaining that illegal aliens are taking "your" jobs then in all honesty, that is pathetic. Its called scape goating because unless you were working on a strawberry plantation or something and they fired you for a mexican, than yes, you have a right to get angry, but if not, then stop raging over something that you CAN’T control. I think i’ve ranted on enough about this haha.
    Oh and also, Oscar, people like you make Mexicans like me look bad because of your, "ghetto" taking and your ignorant points of view… you don’t get anywhere saying things like that.

  40. fallbrook mom   July 20, 2010 at 6:27 am

    Daniel R: No, it is not just Mexicans. You are right…Latinos. Still, now that we are all on the same page…the fact of the matter is that illegal aliens are "illegal". They suck our system dry. Kudos to you for immigrating. Diversity is a good thing. Diversity is not the problem. Freeloaders are.

    I’m an immigrant too, and grew up in a single parent home where mom worked harder than most to feed and clothe me. No welfare or food stamps. Just honest, hard work. Again, I have NO patience or sympathy for those who come here for the free benefits. Ship ’em back and don’t let the door hit ’em on the way out.

  41. pde   July 20, 2010 at 8:43 am

    white people will always be racists i was born here and there is still white people yelling out things like beaner wetback and all those racist comments even if you legal here you will still get treated the same and all of those people are people like ray

  42. Daniel R   July 20, 2010 at 9:26 am

    pde, there are rotten apples in every basket. It isn’t on just one.


  43. JDM   July 20, 2010 at 9:36 am

    much respect to Daniel R,
    and ray, shove off

  44. Ray (the real one   July 20, 2010 at 9:37 am

    pde:Guess you don’t get out much. Rev Wright, Jesse Jackson, Rev. Al Sharpton, and recently a USDA official fired. In actuality, more people of color hold racist views than ehites but I don’t think your going to accept anything other than your point of view.

    danny: I’m a realist and I do lothe illegal aliens, even on record with a rather harsh comment about the Irish illegals in an interview with the Irish Echo, a paper in Northern Ireland. I have worked at stables shoveling manure, I worked the jobs so-called Americans will not do. Yes this country is about justice but also the rule of law, without law, there is no country.

  45. Ray (the real one)   July 20, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    JDM: Back at ya!

  46. Ray (the real one)   July 20, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    Daniel R : Report you can accrss on the internet called "the color of crime". Good reading, might be suprised. Blows the lid off the "rotton apples" claim.

  47. Daniel R.   July 20, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    Ha, Ray. Interesting read. Please read page 12 (Interracial Crime-37) http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf (…whites are more likely to commit interracial violence and more likely be motivated by race hatred).

    by some of the comments here, why am I not surprised!

    and after all we have said and read. Check out the pie chart on page 19, Fig. 24

  48. Ray (the real one)   July 20, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    Daniel R: one thing the report lacks is "why". I think the report answers that question. Sometimes people can get tired of seeing the same stuff every day, same types and just get bone tired, as I am. I watch the daily evening news and I can make a comment on "who" and I’m usually right. Why do you think certain groups say what they say or do what they do. You have to understand the bigger picture. Another interesting topic, maybe more should research this instead of getting the "race deck". Example: AA’s three times more likely, so than people are leary of AA’s three times as much. See what I mean. Not a perfect world, but give people credit for their beliefs instead of branding tham huh?

  49. Ray (the real one)   July 21, 2010 at 1:27 am

    Daniel R: This is what I mean. In a "bird cage times" story http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/sdcounty/article_42600f28-f8d6-5586-8f44-c2eddd562207.html Reconquista Sifuentes did a story where the Escondido Police with the assistance of ICE took numerous illegal alien criminals off the street, one who raped a fifteen year old girl and what did the "open borders bundists" carp about? not the burglaries or the rapes, the poor illegal alien criminals who were busted with the assistance of ICE and that the illegal alien community is in fear, well boo hoo for them. Every single day I have to hear about lawbreakers demanding rights and I as many others say, let them kill themselves, who cares if they live in fear, isn’t that what criminals suppose to do? Maybe that is why people say what they say, not being racists but tired of all this nonsense, I sure am. Because of all this nonsense, I will speak out "harshly" about illegal aliens and the people that are responsible for the crimes. Call me a racist, I wear that badge with "honor" but the "hue" of this nonsense is just making me bone tired.

  50. UNAM   July 21, 2010 at 1:27 am

    Ray(the real one) : you mispelled "chollos." you are right, your family does come from cavemen haha. your lame dude we know your racists we get the point, It makes you happy whenever you read stories how border patrol officers kept mexicans or hispanic humans out of this country. And what do you mean
    ? just cause at one point i came here illegal and wanted a better life i robbed banks or other business’? You got it all wrong i worked hard everyday of my life to get what i have now. A beautiful home, nice cars, and my business. I had one thing in mind and it was to give my family a better life and i have accomplished that. My Daughter has graduated from a private university, then went to law school to become a lawyer. So dont think i came to this country to "take take take" i worked hard, and i will never ever take crap from anyone saying i came to this country to be a freeloader to have an easy life to get benefits and all that.
    Haha me starve without "gringo’s"? please. would you? cause i never thought about that. Man, you think you can just say all this stuff about mexican or latino (mostly mexican) people over the internet but i bet you would NEVER say it to any in person. would you? thats right you wouldnt.

  51. Ray (the real one)   July 21, 2010 at 8:21 am

    UNAM: Seems you don’t know my reputation in Fallbrook, what I do in person usually reflects what I say in print. Do you actually I would be scared to say this in public, already have, you don’t read much do you. So if you and other |"open border bundists" consider me a racist, I wear that like a badge of honor and will never stop the fight. Who cares how I spelled "chollos", I don’t speak chicken scratch.

  52. Ray (the real one)   July 21, 2010 at 8:56 am

    Anyone catch the papers this morning? Two stories could effect you folks directly. The first one is in San Francisco where they are trying to allow illegal aliens to vote in school board elections. what does this mean to you? It means people who broke the law, squeaked out a few puppies will have influence on how much your taxed for schools. This is already being done in New York and Chicago. Your right to vote has now been cheapened. The other story is about Obamacare. The Hispanic Caucus now is pushing for illegal aliens to be included in the Obama care. Again, what does that mean to you? Longer waits, higher taxes, rationed care all to cover the ten to thirty million "border hoppers". Who was it that said they don’t come here for the perks? Folks, being an American citizen is meaningless today, the demi-coms hispandering for the undocumented vote have just sold your birthright as citizens all in the name of politics. Folks, better watch what’s comong next.

  53. hobo_beans   July 21, 2010 at 10:43 am

    Ha ha, "The real one" fell for Breitbarts’ cooked up video of out of context comments by USDA official Shirley Sherrod. It’s the latest rage for racists to call blacks who’ve survived racism "racists".

    Up is down, black is white, war is peace.

    Sorry, "yeah baby"…i don’t know what this ‘salad tossing’ is that you speak of but um, no thanks. It’s always entertaining to see people claiming that they are Real Americans and they speak Real English with all the tact and grace of an inbred 12 year old who eats lead paint chips for breakfast.

  54. whoknows   July 21, 2010 at 10:43 am

    just answer 1 question ray
    are you a rasist?

  55. Ray (the real one)   July 21, 2010 at 10:43 am

    New term to add to your "politically correct" dictionary…… "displaced foreign travelers". How many terms can the left come up with to explain another word, "illegal".

  56. Ray (the real one)   July 21, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    whoknows: No. Just an extremely tired realist.

    hobo_beans: Actually not, Just showing how politics in this country is dragging it down. I would have said and done the same thing but see how "reactionary" the Barry "badda bing" Soetoro administration was? I thought it was funny but proves my point that the NAACP is not above the people they brand. Explain Rev Wright, love to hear it.

  57. hobo_beans   July 21, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    Reverend Wright is a kook. Enough explanation for you? You were known to pal around with Tommy M back in the day – are you a domestic terrorist bent on starting a race war or have you since “refudiated”?

  58. yeah baby   July 21, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    HOBO: # 53, you should get out more often. Love the comment, how long did it take you to think of that one? Seen that comment before on another posting, think for yourself, don’t copy others unique imaginations for your own. Can’t wait for your next comment, going to go snack on some " lead paint chips" now, and see what my Hillbilly family is doing. By the way HOBO, no one speaks "Real" English anymore,,,,,,,um. LOL peace, love and joy to you!!!

  59. Ray (the real one)   July 21, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    hobo_beans: Yes I did, I serviced his computers twice a month. so did Albertson’s selling him groceries, so did Mc. Donalds for selling him burgers, so did FPUD for supplying him water and so did the FBVN for selling him their paper. You could say one half of Fallbrook could be considered under your blanket of stupidity… Redneck Bill.

    You need to stick to one screen name to maintain credibility.

  60. UNAM   July 21, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    Ray is racist . I dont care what your reputation is and i dont intend to find out. You might have spoke in public but what i wanna know is if you have said this to a mexicans face? You seem to hate on mexicans more than other hispanic groups so thats why i ask. A badge? Nice haha. Better not show it or those "chollos" might come out hahaha. Who in this world would mispell "chollos" hahaha

  61. an eFero   July 22, 2010 at 6:20 am

    Racist people….. if they kick us out then who’s going to put food in the markets u dummies

  62. Ray (the real one)   July 22, 2010 at 8:41 am

    an eFero: Just wait until they make an automatic veggie picker, who’s going to employ you?

  63. Ray (the real one)   July 22, 2010 at 9:36 am

    UNAM: All the time. I even have a little song that goes along with it modeled after the Harry Belefonte calypso tune he did decades back. Like I said before regarding the word I spelled incorrectly, I don’t read or write chicken scratch (spanish).

  64. yeah baby   July 22, 2010 at 10:24 am

    HOBO-REDNECK: now I see where you got the "inbred" comment from, runs in your family?
    Also the comment I was referring to # 53 was said on a u-tube posting not on the FBVN posting…maintain credibility does not apply to the "REDNECK HOBO"

  65. the fake ray   July 22, 2010 at 11:10 am

    if Ray (the real one) isnt racist, why does he call some ethnic groups "border hoppers"?
    seems pretty racist to me?

  66. Ray (the real one)   July 22, 2010 at 11:25 am

    Another Ponja boat washes ashore in San Diego County today.

  67. Ray (the real one)   July 22, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    the fake ray: I didn’t know hopping the border designate a certain race but since we live next to a 16th world country, Mexico, It could be "assumed" I am talking about them. Did you get your PC vaccine yet?, better get it now. Just to clarify, Illegal aliens are not a race but people who commit a criminal act. May I suggest going to Fallbrook High School, they offer night classes, might want to refresh knowledge you missed the first time.

  68. Ray (the real fake one)   July 22, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    this is riduculous i’m going back to England where there’s no illegal immigration problems……uh? they do?

  69. Ray (the real one)   July 23, 2010 at 8:06 am

    the fake ray: Don’t let the cabin door hit you on the way into the plane.

  70. UNAM   July 23, 2010 at 8:06 am

    But keep hating were gonna run this country soon just wait.

  71. UNAM   July 23, 2010 at 8:09 am

    Ok just asking, do you have a date you might speak to the public cause i would wanna hear the crud you say. You say you speak to a public all the time, yet i never hear anything about it.
    Its funny how people talk crap on mexicans. “those wetbacks” “immigrants” “aliens” “beaner”. Most of the population are mexican/hispanic. We work hard for our money. You might see us selling raspados, chicharrones, whatever. But you dont see us begging for money on the exits of freeways, outside of markets, near street lights holding a stupid cardboard sign while smoking a ciggarette. We earn our money. Couple of months ago someonE tried stealing from my home at 4 a.m, who was it? An American. My son chased him out and was about to catch him but authorities arrived here. He had robbed 20 houses that night and broke into 18 cars. Who earns their money that way? I know i dont.

  72. Ray (the real one)   July 23, 2010 at 9:11 am

    UNAM: If you are referring to me, I don’t do public speaking engagements anymore nor do I do media interviews, too slanted and agenda ridden. As for selling on the street, all depends on where you look. Fallbrook has this Mexican man roaming around town, you can catch him a Major Market most every morning asking for hand outs. I used to live in Escondido many years back, having someone running up to my vehicle while at a red light selling "polo’s" and bags of oranges, time to move. Go to Los Angeles, can’t miss the migrant pan handlers which have become a major political issue there. Don’t try to give me that "rotten apples" nonsense, in this case it’s the tree having root rot.

  73. the fake ray   July 23, 2010 at 9:44 am

    Ray (the real one), i am a student at fhs, SENIOR to be infact, (just excited that its our last year lol)
    but anyways, no one care what yu to say
    so go pass away in a hole and never bother us again, thanks bud(:

  74. Ray (the real fake one)   July 23, 2010 at 10:34 am

    Obviously you missed the point, Ray go back and see if you get it the second time around.

    Keyword: "Second time around".

    Unam: Ray has never been a public speaker of any kind. If he did, I’m sure he will post a link to something to prove me wrong. Highly doubted though.

  75. UNAM   July 23, 2010 at 11:13 am

    The fake ray: good one.
    Ray ( the real one): why dont you take the fake ray’s advice and make it happen?

  76. Ray (the real one)   July 23, 2010 at 11:13 am

    Ray (the real fake one): I don’t post links for your enjoyment. Not everything is on the internet…….. dude.

    Surf must be up.

  77. Ray (the real one)   July 23, 2010 at 11:13 am

    the fake ray: Kind of figured you were a child. When you grow some hair and bolster your resume of life experiences, than talk to me, otherwise your just a spoiled child who knows nothing. I DON’T BABYSIT!

    Goes to show everyone the quality of our educational system, it’s failing.

  78. the fake ray   July 23, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    and no, yu didnt figure i was a child
    yu dont kno who I AM
    yu dont kno if im white, black, brown
    yu dont kno if im american, brazilian, or german
    and yu dont kno my life
    yu have no idea who any of there people are
    so stop making smartaleck remarks

  79. Ray (the real fake one)   July 23, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Ray, the link will not be for our enjoyment, trust me. It will provide some credibility to every single post you’ve written here. Until then, anything you say will mean nothing but a joke to me and who ever is reading this.

    It is funny how you attack me and I’ve not insulted you even once. Calling me a child? Ok, i’ll scoot down to your level just this once and be a child but first go change your brief poppa!

    Open your eyes Ray, be realistic to what’s happening in the world, not your world. Wake up bud!

  80. UNAM   July 23, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Ray ( the real fake one) : haha see, we caught him in his lies. I didnt believe him either cause i have never heard of anyone doing public speaking regarding this issue.
    Ray (the real one) : you said you do not do MEDIA interviews ANYMORE, where are the ones you did do?

  81. UNAM   July 23, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    Ray ( the real fake one) : really? I didnt believe him either cause i have never heard of anyone doing a public speaking of this issue.
    Ray (the real one): prove us wrong

  82. the fake ray   July 23, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    shows how grown up yu are
    arguing with an adolescent,
    and who ever said a darn about babysitting?
    and how old are yu? 72?
    yu have nothing to do at your house but to write annoying comments and to rot in your house because thats the sad truth
    well not sad to us,
    so take care old man and pass away today? tomorrow would be good too?

  83. Ray (the real fake one)   July 23, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    The only speeches that the real Ray has done was about 35 years ago to his kids when they were about 10.

    Oh, public speeches you say? Yeah they were at Sea World in front of Shamu and couple of penguins.

  84. Ray (the real one)   July 23, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    the fake ray: Nor do I care.

    I don’t respond to children. Seems multiple screen names are being used. FBVN is like an AOL chat room.

    (1) I only respond to adults.
    (2) I only respond to people with only one screen name.

    I don’t do YouTube, FaceBook or the other "kiddie" sites. You want to respond to one of my comments, either graduate high school or be an adult. Shame I have to do the FBVN’s job in "spam filtering".

    Don’t you kiddies have jobs? a taco shop, Mc. Donalds, Lego Land?

    Once again, I DON’T BABYSIT.

  85. Ray (the real fake one)   July 23, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    I’m sure the moderators are getting a good kick out of us….lol

  86. UNAM   July 23, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    Calm down ray ( the real one) they are practically adults who want to have a say in the worlds problems. Who are you to censor their thoughts? Your on here 24/7 commenting on every darn story. Dont you have a job, or even a life? Flip off dude.

  87. Ray (the real fake one)   July 23, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    Common Ray, stop kidding yourself and just be real. It feels good being your true self. There’s no need to hide behind a computer screen and pretend to be someone you really aren’t…No one is impressed by any of your pretend life experiences. Just come out the closet and be "REAL".

    FYI, youtube and facebook aren’t kiddie sites. It is "change" "technology" – don’t be afraid of it, get on with it cause it will leave you behind. Kids use those sites, true, no argument there. If you are smart you can use the sites and promote yourself, no ridden agendas. It’s all about branding, marketing. No need to work for Mc Donalds, I make money using those "kiddies" sites while I sit at my 9-5 earning a paycheck.

    Want to talk about your new policy. Lets, but only when you learn to respect others & yourself…

  88. the fake ray   July 24, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    ray( the real one)
    yu dont know anything about me or any of these people
    yu dont know if im black white brown
    yu dont know if im american german brazilian or mexican
    yu dont know if i play football soccer rugby or basketball
    yu dont know where i live or what part of i town i live in
    so please, just stop
    stop making rude comments/remarks about people yu dont even know because yu really dont know their life and how hard it might be, if yu really are a realist, realize that
    thank you

  89. Ray (the real one)   July 26, 2010 at 9:19 am

    the fake ray: Once again, nor do I care. Should be simple enough for you.

    The word "racist" hs been so diluted that it has become meaningless, over played by the left to brand a certain group who beliefs are not in line with theirs. That is what the word, the NAACP, Rev. Jackson, Sharpton and the rest of the race baiters have become irrevelivant today. I call myself "selective" meaning I choose who I associate with. People will always be selective, either fat, skinny, pretty, ugly, black, white or brown, people will always have the right to be selective, one right I practice. Does a person have a hight to hire, rent to, associate with, do business with anyone they choose? yes, so if I don’t want to hire a certain person, it’s my right to do so. I have excersized this in the past. Do you see white students enrolled at negro colleges? Do you see whites working at Jet and Ebony Magizine or in the negro press? Diversity is a pair of "fixed dice" that only rolls snake eyes for many, even a liberal and powerful democrat form New Jersey is sponsoring government’s role in diversity and preferences, let’s see how many sign on to that one. So if I don’t like someone for whatever reason, nobody can legislate "like" and let people excersize their selective rights.

  90. Ray (the real one)   July 26, 2010 at 11:36 am

    In case you want to follow this nonsense:


  91. Ray (the real one)   July 26, 2010 at 11:36 am

    Here is yet another example of "diversity" has harmed this country. Ever notice when your reading a paper or watching the television news how slanted their peporting, although the FBVN does not practice this nonsense but it happens nation wide, Crow-Plessy reporting. If it’s a black story, call out La Donna Shabazz or a hispanic story, call out Herendo Revolver or an asian story, call out Ying Goo. The mass media is the biggest practicers of racism and race based biases than the rest of America but they expect us to prectice what they don’t preach. No wonder why the mainstream media is on it’s final death roll.

  92. the fake ray   July 26, 2010 at 11:36 am

    if you say so buddy

  93. Ray (the real one)   July 26, 2010 at 11:37 am

    Here is an example on why you should not believe everything you read in the internet. This has to do with illegal immigration, not San Diego but illegal immigration in general. This weekend while you folks were doing your business and having fun, a little known story was created by your frind and mine, Jeff Schwilk from the San Diego Minutemen. He released a story that heavily armed Zeta cartel members took over two ranches in Laredo Texas, this allegation was backed up by the San Diego Examiner and a blog called "Diggers Realm" a blog with caters to illegal immigration. Now the story stated it was a military like action and there was a news blackout, the normal Obama cover up allegations, even top people like Michelle Malkin picked up on it but guess what folks, it never happened, a hoax. Just as the USDA story was a hoax, so what this one. Now Schwilk and the Examiner still stand behind their story but with all the scanner buffs, cameras and cellular phones, internet posting sites, nothing, no a squeak of a story. This is what I mean folks, take your news, what you get off the internet and decide for yourself what you believe. Too much garbage and clutter floating around, eyes and ears are your best sources.

  94. i love yu ray but,   July 26, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    yu are one twisted person

  95. Ray (the real one)   July 26, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    How is that?

  96. i love yu ray but,   July 27, 2010 at 12:06 am

    cuz look at the rude comments yu put about immigrants trying to have a better life?

  97. oscar   July 27, 2010 at 7:45 am

    Ray (the real one) just find a job find something to do there`s nothing you can do to stop us we`re just proud of who we are & thank god my hard work paid off that I run my own buisness now so if you a job or something your more then welcome to apply at my restaurant & we don`t discriminate thats how we were raised to be who cares if you`re white,black,brown,yellow,orange or whatever we treat everybody the same thats how we were raised & yes I probably wrote back rude comments ya but just that this Ray guy just loves to run his mouth

  98. Ray (the real one)   July 28, 2010 at 8:14 am

    i love yu ray but: I want a better life too but I don’t rob a bank. Get it through your heads folks, it’s illegal period.

    oscar: thanks but no thanks, I don’t roll burritos.

  99. Ray (the real fake one)   July 28, 2010 at 8:30 am

    Oscar, you say you are proud of who you are? right? Do you also take pride of where you "live" and express it to your circle of friends?

  100. Ray (the real one)   July 30, 2010 at 3:31 am

    Paco and Paco-ettes, pull that stuff in China and they shoot you than send your family a bill for the spent round. Sounds good to me.

  101. i love yu ray but,   July 30, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    who ever said anything about robbing banks
    and anything about "illegal" immigrants
    cuz i sure didnt?

  102. Ray (the real one)   July 31, 2010 at 9:51 am

    i love yu ray but,: You said "better life" (post #96) well I want one too but I don’t break the law to obtain it. Just the same tired old line I hear every day.

  103. nmm   August 26, 2010 at 12:09 am

    Send all of the ILLEGAL aliens back to their countries! That includes mexicans, albanians, indians, etc. If your not here LEGALLY you shouldn’t be here.

  104. roberto   September 7, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    if they sneak over and stub their toe, is that a reason to let them stay? STUPID!!!!!!

  105. (*_*)   October 3, 2010 at 12:45 am

    And I’m proud to be a Mexamerican where at least I know I’m free; and I won’t forget the men who died who gave that right to me,
    And I proudly stand up next to you and defend her still today, ’cause there “ain’t” no doubt I love this land…. God Bless the MEXICANS——

  106. 17 year old   October 25, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    You all sound uneducated. How about you actually study what you think is right. For one, Mexicans are not the only ones who come to this country. The United States is a country built on immigrants. The land is basically stolen from Native Americans. YOU’RE ALL FORGETTING THAT YOUR ANCESTORS WERE ONCE IMMIGRANTS. If you wonder why there are so many Mexicans it’s probably because many states were Mexico territories bought from America in the Mexican American War, which was a very shady deal on America’s part. Most Mexicans come to this country in need for a better life. How about everyone stops being hypocrites and selfish. The hardworking immigrants deserve to stay in this country while the criminals should go back. I was brought here as a child legally because of the crime that was going back in my hometown. It’s sad how many people can judge you from where you’re from rather than how educated you are. And it’s sad that i am probably smarter than half of the people who commented here and i’m only 17.

    Oh, and ray (the real one) you make Americans sound stupid. Just saying..

  107. JD(DA real one)   January 20, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    HEY ray( the real one) people like you give us peace patrol men a bad name. im studying criminal justice right now at a local university, and you know what? Im Mexican!!! I also skateboard looking to be going professional pretty soon. You think were cheaper yeah maybe because like everyone else were trying to feed our familys too. I bet i get better grades then all you americans will ever be close too LOL. Man us mexicans got skills, were good in everything from gardening to making our very own ps2 out of cardboard boxes. And don’t you got a donut trip with your buddys to go too? what are doing waiting thinking of what your going to say next? Hey well lets forget about this situaution, lets see whats up with you. Hey have you heard about the Obese problem? Man them american women and men are getting fat and turning yellow seems to me like everytime im driving down the street i see a fat american trying to fool himself, thinking hes going to loose weight. haha im srry its just so true!

  108. jd (real one)   January 20, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    HEY ray( the real one) people like you give us peace patrol men a bad name. im studying criminal justice right now at a local university, and you know what? Im Mexican!!! I also skateboard looking to be going professional pretty soon. You think were cheaper yeah maybe because like everyone else were trying to feed our familys too. I bet i get better grades then all you americans will ever be close too LOL. Man us mexicans got skills, were good in everything from gardening to making our very own ps2 out of cardboard boxes. what are doing waiting thinking of what your going to say next? Hey well lets forget about this situaution, lets see whats up with you. Hey have you heard about the Obese problem? Man them american women and men are getting fat and turning yellow seems to me like everytime im driving down the street i see a fat american trying to fool himself, thinking hes going to loose weight. haha im srry its just so true!

  109. JD(DA real one)   January 20, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    HEY ray( the real one) people like you give us peace patrol men a bad name. im studying criminal justice right now at a local university, and you know what? Im Mexican!!! I also skateboard looking to be going professional pretty soon. You think were cheaper yeah maybe because like everyone else were trying to feed our familys too. I bet i get better grades then all you americans will ever be close too LOL. Man us mexicans got skills, were good in everything from gardening to making our very own ps2 out of cardboard boxes

  110. JD(DA real one)   January 20, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    Hey!!! Im Mexican and guesse what im not slow! Im actully a A student studying the Criminal Justice field. Ray( Real One) you are no peace patrol you dont even care about the citizens! You seem to me like a broken down muffler cop. Oh wait you are!

  111. JD(DA real one)   January 20, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    Hey!!! Im Mexican and guesse what im not slow! Im actully a A student studying the Criminal Justice field. Ray( Real One) you are no peace patrol you dont even care about the citizens! And your a police officer!

  112. JD(DA real one)   January 20, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    Hey!!! Im Mexican and guesse what im not slow! Im actully a A student studying the Criminal Justice field. Ray( Real One) you are no peace patrol you dont even care about the citizens!

  113. a mad flk res.   June 26, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    pde And the mexicans don’t do s—t is that what your saying? Please get a life. there nothing but trouble, you bet we people are going too say things back. All these little gang bangers need too get there azz’s kicked. nothing but a waste of life…. ya you bet pde……

  114. Ray(the real one)   September 30, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    I love mexicans and I’m not afraid to say it(:

  115. Vic   August 24, 2012 at 7:42 am

    How about we take away welfare and most all useless social services so most on this board will stop crying "unfair" Honestly, being a burden and living off the system is blind to "country of origin" and I’ve noticed there is enough barbarians out there with just as much golden locks as there are sombreros. Stop finding scapegoats, and start figuring out why we have problems….As for jobs, people look for the cheapest wage earner or job quote; social services: we really dont need it, that goes for medical help….most people legal or illegal have no eye or dental coverage which is what we need most.

    So far the best guru at gardening has been a Mexican and being in a garden club with clueless people shows me how much we really depend on "unofficial skills" Mexico is probably the greener pasture, if only it didnt seem so damm scary to be there if my family wouldnt stick out like a sore thumb. Scapegoating Don’t we all love it!

    Stop finding excuses about how others ruin your life, and actually figure out how to improve it …. Taxes are taken from all and heavily…. it doesnt matter if its a Samoan, Canadian, Mexican, or Albanian you think is eating the social service pie….

    I dont disagree illegal international students crowed our schools, but it’s not them where the problem lies…it’s the interpretation of our laws that "allows" them free access. Push to change the interpretation and you will help relieve the problem. My kids sat on the floor because there was an impact in a public school less than 20 miles from the border. I’m not blaming anyone but our system for that.

    MY SOLUTION: I went homeschool full time and although my kids are now grown and in college or working, I’ve never looked back.

    Same goes for WIC, subsidized child care, etc. nothing is free, we eventually pay a price…and having people gripping about how some entitlement is taken from them because they see others as leeches is our society is a price we are paying

    push to abolish needless services and request those that really matter regardless of who benefits

    Let’s stop the unproductive POO slinging

  116. Myhrr   December 13, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Can someone from Mexico or Central America help me with this? I am being sincere. People in countries all over the world are fighting hard to make their own countries better. It’s like they are sick and tired of dishonest governments and politicians not treating their citizens right. Why not take all the anger and determination and hard work you have within you and demand change in your own countries? Demand your rights! Fight hard for you and your family and your neighbors and your future there, instead of demanding another country for your rights.

    Mexico, for instance, is a beautiful country, rich in natural resources, (silver, copper, marble etc) and yet people think Mexico is a poor country. It’s a wealthy country that a few dishonest fat cats do their best to keep a few people wealthy, obscenely wealthy and the majority of the people very poor. I notice the middle class is almost non existent there.
    If it’s citizens united and everyone truly stuck together and fought together they could force their government to change its ways and take care of their responsibilities. Seems to me most countries have had to do this from time to time.

    Is it that it is seem easier to stand up here and speak out because it feels safer? It wasn’t always safe to stand up and speak out in the U.S. It was a hard fought battle for rights like this, even when they were guaranteed in the Constitution. (Anyone remember how long it took for Women or African Americans to actually get all of their rights in this country)? Does anyone think this needs battle needs to be waged in Mexico and Central America?

    I personally think that governments such as Mexico have found it easier to let a huge chunk of their population go elsewhere and work to send the money home to help out their families, rather than create jobs for their people there. It takes pressure off of the government and politicians to be responsible, for their own people.

    I hope I did not offend anyone. Sometime I feel angry and indignant at the plight of the poor because of dishonest or lazy politicians and governments who cheat their own citizens.

  117. Land of The Free....Facade   April 3, 2014 at 9:03 am

    Call it what you want, but I call it SAD….you White people are the most ignorant of them all. Its you who create a more hostile society. The disturbing way we think as Americans or Working Class Citizens , has brought us to have such tragedys in our homefronts and abroad…….we are not able to control everything …we should not try to . Try hard to change what you cant understand…by having an open mind …..try walking a day in someone else shoes before you criticize them for their disposition….
    Dont you realize that you are Blessed as to have the opportunity to have such things so plastic.. Tax payers ..? So what you work your asses off to pay for your own bills ! How dare you be so angry at Mexican people for not being so Plastic.
    Not laughing out loud as I struggle to explain to you whom are laughing at the people caught trying to escape another government . You are also governed , and most of you havent the guts or courage to escape the prison which you are financially forced into. This prison represents your own government which pay for illegals to live here.
    ITS YOU WHO ARE ANGRY ABOUT OUR LAWS AND YOU pay for them. IM LAUGHING AT YOU….white collar. Blue collar … Get SomePof the american dream…..you support it financially .PS.


  118. LIBERTY MPEED   April 3, 2014 at 9:20 am



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